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    Acheron

    Registriert seit: 19.08.2004

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    Auf www.cradleoffilth.com gibts vom neuen Album den Song Guilted cunt zum downloaden,da kann man sich ja ungefähr ausmachen ,wie das Album in etwa klingt.
    Für mich klingts wie eh und je.

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    King Diamond

    Registriert seit: 14.02.2004

    Beiträge: 8,372

    Ich habe hier mal zwei Kritiken von Fans aus dem Netz kopiert.Finde sehr interessant was die da schreiben.

    Cradle of Filth be jumpin the metalcore bandwagon – 10%
    Written by Shadow0fDeath on September 1st, 2004

    After feeling Damnation and a Day was decent and i decided to see what the new release, Nymphetamine, had to offer. Going from Death Metal, to Gothic Metal was a decent change. More suitable for their sound, and image, but after hopping right to roadrunner records the ball continues to bounce and Cradle have yet again changed sound to become more accessible. What ever happened to the passion of music you fags? It seems to be clear that with this sound change cradle of filth lost all passion for the music and continue to wallow in a world of trying to make a buck or two.

    So what is this new sound? Metalcore. Yep that’s right. Killswitch Engage, Chimaira, As I Lay Dying, etc have a new kid on the block. They keep the keyboards and Dani filth, but this has got to be the most hilarious this i had ever heard. There is no musical value to this album either. Just the same Chimaira clone bullshit metal coming out these days. This attempt is beyond poor at achieving that form of status as well. There is nothing great about this new Cradle of filth. It’s just the same average metalcore album and the physical proof of Cradle of Filth’s selling out. Get tickets now! Cradle of Filth is touring with KoRn and Slipknot! They’ll be doing a split with System of a Down soon as well!

    Nymphetagay – 35%
    Written by K_a_z_u_y_a on September 1st, 2004

    I am somewhat displeased by this album.
    I can’t truly express in words how much this album blows donkey fetus‘ ass, you’d have to hear it for yourself.

    As usual, it starts off with a standard gothic-esque Cradle Of Filth intro that seems to drag on and on and on and on relentlessly, and well, it’s downright gay.

    Following the samewhat homosexual introduction, we’re greeted with the rather aptly titled „Gilded Cunt“.
    We’re lead to believe this album is going to be good, and it’s not. It’s just got a layer of gold glitter sprinkled over the top to deceive us.
    This is song is absolute shit, no doubt about it. This isn’t Cradle Of Filth, it doesn’t sound like Cradle Of Filth, if it didn’t have Dani Filth and the keyboards, I’d think it were Chimaira with a different vocalist; yes; this song sounds rather a lot like Chimaira, it’s like they took something from Chimaira’s playbook and added it to their own.

    For a reason unbeknownst to me, most of the songs seem to sound like this; 100% mallcore. The vocals are still the same old Cradle Of Filth vocals, the leads are few and far between, and the rest of the guitar riffs sound like they’re from a Chimaira album, the drumming is rather half assed, and also, you guessed it, it sounds like Chimaira’s drumming, also!

    I knew that Cradle signing to Roadrunner would be a disaster, but I still held hope. I didn’t have any idea it’d be this awful.

    Track 3, „Nemesis“, seems to drag on forever, and is slow almost through the entire song.

    „Gabrielle“ is much of the same, slow, slow, slow, sometimes stopping for the keyboard slapped over the top of the guitars.

    Again, the following track, „Absinthe With Faust“ is slow, however; there are quite a few redeeming points in this song. Amidst the Chimaira-sounding crap they’ve decided to chuck in a few leads here and there, that actually aren’t all that bad, but it still doesn’t sound like Cradle Of Filth, and there are also nice keyboard melodies slapped over the top in certain parts of the song.

    „Nymphetamine Overdose“ is Cradle’s standard „we must have a long track filled with female vocals!“ song on the album, and in all honest, this song is actually DECENT. Easily the best song on the album, and it doesn’t completely sound like Chimaira! It has some nice female vocals throughout it, although, it doesn’t like the normal girl that sings for Cradle, it kind of sounds
    like Cristina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil, furthermore, there are some nice and interesting leads on this, also!

    „Painting Flowers White Never Suited My Palette“ …seriously, what the fuck is this? Some filler/interlude bullshit that makes no sense, and is completely out of place on the album. Pointless bullshit. Skip.

    Next up, there’s „Medusa And Hemlock“ ..okay, so this album seems to be getting better! The intro is rather good, with a nice riff, followed by some Damnation And A Day-esque guitar work, nice double kick drumming, and.. oh no, we’ve started to descent into the Chimaira bullshit again. This song seems to be going downhill… And only redeems itself for the choruses.
    However, at 3:15; there’s a nice, albeit, very out of place solo. Sounds like it could come from Kerry King’s reportoire.

    The next track, I don’t fucking know. I’m at a loss for words. It really makes my ears bleed. It’s called „Coffin Fodder“, and I’m beginning to think this CD is just that; coffin fodder.

    „English Fire“ …is that an old school Cradle intro, or do my ears deceive me? Wait, yes, it is! This song is beginning to get on my nerves, almost a minute and no tempo change whatsoever. Talk about boring; this song really drags on and on. Skip!

    And now we have „Filthy Little Secret“. What the fuck? That sounds kind of like a riff that’d come from Maiden, followed by a utterly disgusting lead. HATE. I hate this song already. Oh, what a surprise, here we have the Chimaira crap again, followed by that annoying, shitty lead. This is awful.

    „Swansong For A Raven“; what can I say? The keyboard intro is beautiful, then the guitars kick in, and the keyboard carries on! I’m really enjoying this song. This is probably the only song to come out of Cradle’s arsenal that actually sounds like Cradle! This sounds like it wouldn’t be out of place on Dusk… And Her Embrace and the like. It’s really quite good. The guitars are nice, and there are no where near as many Chimaira moments on this track than there are in the rest of the songs, the riffs are nice, there’s frequent tempo changes, and the drumming is tight. Good song!

    The follower, „Mother Of Abominations“ is another song that actually sounds like Cradle Of Filth, and not Chimaira! Again, this would fit right in right amongst Dusk… And Her Embrace. Why don’t Cradle Of Filth always sound like this? This track spans from mid speed to fast paced rather erratically, and is enough to keep the listener interested, another good song!

    „Nymphetamine Fix“.. this song, also, doesn’t sound like Chimaira. It would fit in amongst some of Cradle’s slower stuff, and really isn’t too bad, a little slow for my liking, though. There are some nice female vocals, and some interesting leads. Should be enough to keep the listener interested; but if you really don’t dig slow stuff, then stay away, this isn’t your cup of tea.

    Overall, this album seems to meander aimlessly in circles, occasionally sounding like Cradle, but for the most part seems to be focused on how much they can sound like Chimaira. Two good songs, a decent song, and a half decent song isn’t enough to make an album good. Not even average, there are 14 songs, and out of those 14 songs, only two are good. If they had’ve followed the formulas to „Swansong For A Raven“ and „Mother Of Abominations“, I don’t think there would’ve been any other option but to endlessly praise this album, but they don’t, so I’ve got nothing else to say but… …THIS ALBUM IS AWFUL.

    Don’t waste your money… …that is unless you either a) really like Chimaira or b) dig awful mallcore crap.

    Highlights:
    Swansong For A Raven

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    guitarwiz308

    Registriert seit: 12.12.2003

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    na – da bin ich ja mal gespannt.

    Eine Sache muß ich noch in den raum werfen die sich bei den kritiken der „fans“ bei mir gestellt hat:

    Ist der musikalische stil einer band von plattenlabel abhängig.

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    Perkons

    Registriert seit: 18.03.2004

    Beiträge: 1,977

    ich mach mir erst mal ein eigenes Bild von der Scheibe und daher noch keine großen Sorgen. Chimaira kenn ich ehrlich gesagt gar nicht. außerdem: den ersten Song, über den sich der zweite Rezensent besonders echauffiert hat, kennt man ja schon. und der klingt doch 100%ig nach Cradle.

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    crazydarkandmad

    Registriert seit: 17.06.2004

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    Melodic was sonst?na, was sagt ihr? Werden sie mit ihrer neuen Platte mit der alten mithalten können?

    Was heisst mit der Alten mithalten können? Damnation and a Day ist ja wohl der Karrieretiefpunkt von Cradle. Ich geh mal stark davon aus, dass sie nach einer Talfahrt wieder ein Hammer Album rausbringen. Vor Damnation… hat es ja auch geklappt.

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    crazydarkandmad

    Registriert seit: 17.06.2004

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    JasonAlso, ich habe so ein Demo mit 5 neuen Songs von der neuen Platte. Und ich muss sagen dass sich Cradle über die Jahre Null weiterentwickelt haben. Bis zur Median war ich noch richtig positiv von COF angetan aber mittlerweile finde ich es nur noch langweilig. Die unnötigen Best OF und mit Covern bestückten Alben brauchte auch niemand.
    Jeden Song von COF könnte man auf jedes Album packen. Ich bin der Meinung das Dani in den letzten jahren seinen Zug verpasst hat und nach alter Manier Kohle scheffeln will!!!

    Kohle scheffeln glaub ich nicht. Er ist festgefahren. Er hat ein Bild wie Cradle klingen muss und da darf nix abweichen. Ich hab trotzdem Hoffnung.

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    Gelöschter Benutzer

    Registriert seit: 20.06.2016

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    Bis Midian war zwar eine starke Weiterentwicklung, allerdings ist wie ich finde die größte Weiterentwicklung zu Damnation and a Day geschehen, da dort vorallem durch das Orchester das Album eine gewisse Tiefe bekommen hat, die vorher gefehlt hat. Somit kann man Songs wie Better Reign In Hell o. ä. nicht auf jedes Album packen. Auch glaub ich nicht , dass ein Stillstand bei Cradle eingetreten ist, da bis jetzt immer eine Weiterentwicklung stattgefunden hat. Egal ob diese nun für den einen zu melodiös und somit auch super KOMMERZIEL ist oder zurück zu Principle of evil made flesh und vempyre zeiten zurück zu den ursprüngen stattfindet. COF sind jedenfalls nicht so kommerziell wie Dimmu Borgir mit Death Cult Armageddon.

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    Peters Dick

    Registriert seit: 18.01.2004

    Beiträge: 12,430

    Wie ich ja schon öfter geschrieben habe fand ich alles bis zur Midian wirklich gut/geil. Danach kamen ja aber diese beiden(?!?!) Best Of Alben raus welche ich wirklich als unnötig empfunden habe. Damnation and a Day fand ich dann auch fürn Hintern.
    Von Gilded Cunt bin ich persönlich sehr überrascht und angetan. Wenn der Rest des Albums auch so wird, dann wirds wohl eine klasse Platte!
    Warten wir es mal ab…

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    Übrigens, das ist so eine andere Sache, die ich immer machen wollte, außer Boxer werden: In BEstattungsunternehmen rumlungern. Ich wollte einer von diesen Typen sein, die die Tür aufmachen und sagen >>Herzliches Beileid<<(Charles Bukowski)
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    Black_Hollow

    Registriert seit: 20.01.2004

    Beiträge: 189

    King DiamondIch habe hier mal zwei Kritiken von Fans aus dem Netz kopiert.Finde sehr interessant was die da schreiben.

    Cradle of Filth be jumpin the metalcore bandwagon – 10%
    Written by Shadow0fDeath on September 1st, 2004

    After feeling Damnation and a Day was decent and i decided to see what the new release, Nymphetamine, had to offer. Going from Death Metal, to Gothic Metal was a decent change. More suitable for their sound, and image, but after hopping right to roadrunner records the ball continues to bounce and Cradle have yet again changed sound to become more accessible. What ever happened to the passion of music you fags? It seems to be clear that with this sound change cradle of filth lost all passion for the music and continue to wallow in a world of trying to make a buck or two.

    So what is this new sound? Metalcore. Yep that’s right. Killswitch Engage, Chimaira, As I Lay Dying, etc have a new kid on the block. They keep the keyboards and Dani filth, but this has got to be the most hilarious this i had ever heard. There is no musical value to this album either. Just the same Chimaira clone bullshit metal coming out these days. This attempt is beyond poor at achieving that form of status as well. There is nothing great about this new Cradle of filth. It’s just the same average metalcore album and the physical proof of Cradle of Filth’s selling out. Get tickets now! Cradle of Filth is touring with KoRn and Slipknot! They’ll be doing a split with System of a Down soon as well!

    Nymphetagay – 35%
    Written by K_a_z_u_y_a on September 1st, 2004

    I am somewhat displeased by this album.
    I can’t truly express in words how much this album blows donkey fetus‘ ass, you’d have to hear it for yourself.

    As usual, it starts off with a standard gothic-esque Cradle Of Filth intro that seems to drag on and on and on and on relentlessly, and well, it’s downright gay.

    Following the samewhat homosexual introduction, we’re greeted with the rather aptly titled „Gilded Cunt“.
    We’re lead to believe this album is going to be good, and it’s not. It’s just got a layer of gold glitter sprinkled over the top to deceive us.
    This is song is absolute shit, no doubt about it. This isn’t Cradle Of Filth, it doesn’t sound like Cradle Of Filth, if it didn’t have Dani Filth and the keyboards, I’d think it were Chimaira with a different vocalist; yes; this song sounds rather a lot like Chimaira, it’s like they took something from Chimaira’s playbook and added it to their own.

    For a reason unbeknownst to me, most of the songs seem to sound like this; 100% mallcore. The vocals are still the same old Cradle Of Filth vocals, the leads are few and far between, and the rest of the guitar riffs sound like they’re from a Chimaira album, the drumming is rather half assed, and also, you guessed it, it sounds like Chimaira’s drumming, also!

    I knew that Cradle signing to Roadrunner would be a disaster, but I still held hope. I didn’t have any idea it’d be this awful.

    Track 3, „Nemesis“, seems to drag on forever, and is slow almost through the entire song.

    „Gabrielle“ is much of the same, slow, slow, slow, sometimes stopping for the keyboard slapped over the top of the guitars.

    Again, the following track, „Absinthe With Faust“ is slow, however; there are quite a few redeeming points in this song. Amidst the Chimaira-sounding crap they’ve decided to chuck in a few leads here and there, that actually aren’t all that bad, but it still doesn’t sound like Cradle Of Filth, and there are also nice keyboard melodies slapped over the top in certain parts of the song.

    „Nymphetamine Overdose“ is Cradle’s standard „we must have a long track filled with female vocals!“ song on the album, and in all honest, this song is actually DECENT. Easily the best song on the album, and it doesn’t completely sound like Chimaira! It has some nice female vocals throughout it, although, it doesn’t like the normal girl that sings for Cradle, it kind of sounds
    like Cristina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil, furthermore, there are some nice and interesting leads on this, also!

    „Painting Flowers White Never Suited My Palette“ …seriously, what the fuck is this? Some filler/interlude bullshit that makes no sense, and is completely out of place on the album. Pointless bullshit. Skip.

    Next up, there’s „Medusa And Hemlock“ ..okay, so this album seems to be getting better! The intro is rather good, with a nice riff, followed by some Damnation And A Day-esque guitar work, nice double kick drumming, and.. oh no, we’ve started to descent into the Chimaira bullshit again. This song seems to be going downhill… And only redeems itself for the choruses.
    However, at 3:15; there’s a nice, albeit, very out of place solo. Sounds like it could come from Kerry King’s reportoire.

    The next track, I don’t fucking know. I’m at a loss for words. It really makes my ears bleed. It’s called „Coffin Fodder“, and I’m beginning to think this CD is just that; coffin fodder.

    „English Fire“ …is that an old school Cradle intro, or do my ears deceive me? Wait, yes, it is! This song is beginning to get on my nerves, almost a minute and no tempo change whatsoever. Talk about boring; this song really drags on and on. Skip!

    And now we have „Filthy Little Secret“. What the fuck? That sounds kind of like a riff that’d come from Maiden, followed by a utterly disgusting lead. HATE. I hate this song already. Oh, what a surprise, here we have the Chimaira crap again, followed by that annoying, shitty lead. This is awful.

    „Swansong For A Raven“; what can I say? The keyboard intro is beautiful, then the guitars kick in, and the keyboard carries on! I’m really enjoying this song. This is probably the only song to come out of Cradle’s arsenal that actually sounds like Cradle! This sounds like it wouldn’t be out of place on Dusk… And Her Embrace and the like. It’s really quite good. The guitars are nice, and there are no where near as many Chimaira moments on this track than there are in the rest of the songs, the riffs are nice, there’s frequent tempo changes, and the drumming is tight. Good song!

    The follower, „Mother Of Abominations“ is another song that actually sounds like Cradle Of Filth, and not Chimaira! Again, this would fit right in right amongst Dusk… And Her Embrace. Why don’t Cradle Of Filth always sound like this? This track spans from mid speed to fast paced rather erratically, and is enough to keep the listener interested, another good song!

    „Nymphetamine Fix“.. this song, also, doesn’t sound like Chimaira. It would fit in amongst some of Cradle’s slower stuff, and really isn’t too bad, a little slow for my liking, though. There are some nice female vocals, and some interesting leads. Should be enough to keep the listener interested; but if you really don’t dig slow stuff, then stay away, this isn’t your cup of tea.

    Overall, this album seems to meander aimlessly in circles, occasionally sounding like Cradle, but for the most part seems to be focused on how much they can sound like Chimaira. Two good songs, a decent song, and a half decent song isn’t enough to make an album good. Not even average, there are 14 songs, and out of those 14 songs, only two are good. If they had’ve followed the formulas to „Swansong For A Raven“ and „Mother Of Abominations“, I don’t think there would’ve been any other option but to endlessly praise this album, but they don’t, so I’ve got nothing else to say but… …THIS ALBUM IS AWFUL.

    Don’t waste your money… …that is unless you either a) really like Chimaira or b) dig awful mallcore crap.

    Highlights:
    Swansong For A Raven

    ja klaaaaaaaar……… also 1. bilde ich mir gerne selber ne meinung über aktuelle cds. 2. wer COF seit der Anfangszeit kennt und ihre Entwicklung verfolgt hat weiß zwar dass sie schon lange nich mehr so sind wie zur Vempire oder Dusk and her embrace zeit aber nie in den metalcore hineintriften würden. 3. hat COF schon immer ihren eigenen eigenständigen musikstilgehabt der jeglicher bezeichnung widerstrebt. also ist 4. diese Kritik mehr als lachhaft 🙄

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    "When you know that your time is close at hand Maybe then you’ll begin to understand Life down there is just a strange illusion." IRON MAIDEN ~ HALLOWED BE THY NAME
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    Black_Hollow

    Registriert seit: 20.01.2004

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    Peter´s DickWie ich ja schon öfter geschrieben habe fand ich alles bis zur Midian wirklich gut/geil. Danach kamen ja aber diese beiden(?!?!) Best Of Alben raus welche ich wirklich als unnötig empfunden habe. Damnation and a Day fand ich dann auch fürn Hintern.
    Von Gilded Cunt bin ich persönlich sehr überrascht und angetan. Wenn der Rest des Albums auch so wird, dann wirds wohl eine klasse Platte!
    Warten wir es mal ab…

    Man muss aber auch bedenken dass Damnation and a day von anfang an als konzeptalbum geplant war und dadurch sich auch von anfang an gegenüber anderen material sehr stark unterschieden hat. –> ist übrigens bei anderen bands auch so die konzeptalben veröfentlich wenn man nachdenkt………. ob dir es gefällt oder nicht ist dir überlassen aber es ist stilistisch und musikalisch ein großer schritt für COF gewesen und wie ich finde ein guter

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    "When you know that your time is close at hand Maybe then you’ll begin to understand Life down there is just a strange illusion." IRON MAIDEN ~ HALLOWED BE THY NAME
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    Black_Hollow

    Registriert seit: 20.01.2004

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    crazydarkandmad

    Jason

    Also, ich habe so ein Demo mit 5 neuen Songs von der neuen Platte. Und ich muss sagen dass sich Cradle über die Jahre Null weiterentwickelt haben. Bis zur Median war ich noch richtig positiv von COF angetan aber mittlerweile finde ich es nur noch langweilig. Die unnötigen Best OF und mit Covern bestückten Alben brauchte auch niemand.
    Jeden Song von COF könnte man auf jedes Album packen. Ich bin der Meinung das Dani in den letzten jahren seinen Zug verpasst hat und nach alter Manier Kohle scheffeln will!!!

    Kohle scheffeln glaub ich nicht. Er ist festgefahren. Er hat ein Bild wie Cradle klingen muss und da darf nix abweichen. Ich hab trotzdem Hoffnung.

    weder das kohle scheffeln noch das festfahren trifft zu denke ich. Dani hat ein gewisses bild wie alles laufen muss damit sich die band weiterentwickelt udn damit es gut läuft …….. best of cds kommen bei so ziemlich jeder band nach 10 jahren raus wann kapiert ihr das endlich. und damnation and a day ist wie gesagt ein konzept album und daher sehr abweichend vom rest. Kein wunder dass ihr es nicht mögt. es ist ja auch n riesen schritt von midian auf damnation….. aber als fan würd ich mal sagen dass man es wissen sollte wieso damnation…. so is wie es is udn ich persönlich find die platte gut, zwar nicht herausragend aber dennoch gut. man muss sich halt als fan mit dem stoff länger auseinandersetzen und mal analysieren wieso alles so klingt wie es klingt 🙄

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    "When you know that your time is close at hand Maybe then you’ll begin to understand Life down there is just a strange illusion." IRON MAIDEN ~ HALLOWED BE THY NAME
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    guitarwiz308

    Registriert seit: 12.12.2003

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    Black_Hollow

    weder das kohle scheffeln noch das festfahren trifft zu denke ich. Dani hat ein gewisses bild wie alles laufen muss damit sich die band weiterentwickelt udn damit es gut läuft …….. best of cds kommen bei so ziemlich jeder band nach 10 jahren raus wann kapiert ihr das endlich. und damnation and a day ist wie gesagt ein konzept album und daher sehr abweichend vom rest. Kein wunder dass ihr es nicht mögt. es ist ja auch n riesen schritt von midian auf damnation….. aber als fan würd ich mal sagen dass man es wissen sollte wieso damnation…. so is wie es is udn ich persönlich find die platte gut, zwar nicht herausragend aber dennoch gut. man muss sich halt als fan mit dem stoff länger auseinandersetzen und mal analysieren wieso alles so klingt wie es klingt 🙄

    da gebe ich dir vollkommen recht

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    crazydarkandmad

    Registriert seit: 17.06.2004

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    Black_Hollow

    crazydarkandmad

    Jason

    Also, ich habe so ein Demo mit 5 neuen Songs von der neuen Platte. Und ich muss sagen dass sich Cradle über die Jahre Null weiterentwickelt haben. Bis zur Median war ich noch richtig positiv von COF angetan aber mittlerweile finde ich es nur noch langweilig. Die unnötigen Best OF und mit Covern bestückten Alben brauchte auch niemand.
    Jeden Song von COF könnte man auf jedes Album packen. Ich bin der Meinung das Dani in den letzten jahren seinen Zug verpasst hat und nach alter Manier Kohle scheffeln will!!!

    Kohle scheffeln glaub ich nicht. Er ist festgefahren. Er hat ein Bild wie Cradle klingen muss und da darf nix abweichen. Ich hab trotzdem Hoffnung.

    weder das kohle scheffeln noch das festfahren trifft zu denke ich. Dani hat ein gewisses bild wie alles laufen muss damit sich die band weiterentwickelt udn damit es gut läuft …….. best of cds kommen bei so ziemlich jeder band nach 10 jahren raus wann kapiert ihr das endlich. und damnation and a day ist wie gesagt ein konzept album und daher sehr abweichend vom rest. Kein wunder dass ihr es nicht mögt. es ist ja auch n riesen schritt von midian auf damnation….. aber als fan würd ich mal sagen dass man es wissen sollte wieso damnation…. so is wie es is udn ich persönlich find die platte gut, zwar nicht herausragend aber dennoch gut. man muss sich halt als fan mit dem stoff länger auseinandersetzen und mal analysieren wieso alles so klingt wie es klingt 🙄

    Genau das hab ich getan. Dani meinte in mehreren Interviews, das Damnation… am ehesten seiner Vorstellung entspricht wie Cradle zu klingen hat. Das war zu der Zeit kurz bevor Damnation raus kam. Mittlerweise ist von seinem Konzept Album gar nicht mehr so begeistert.
    Darauf begründete er auch den Schritt wieder mehr zu den alten Sachen zurück zu greifen, worauf ich mich sehr freu.

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    King Diamond

    Registriert seit: 14.02.2004

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    Black_Hollow

    King Diamond

    Ich habe hier mal zwei Kritiken von Fans aus dem Netz kopiert.Finde sehr interessant was die da schreiben.

    Cradle of Filth be jumpin the metalcore bandwagon – 10%
    Written by Shadow0fDeath on September 1st, 2004

    After feeling Damnation and a Day was decent and i decided to see what the new release, Nymphetamine, had to offer. Going from Death Metal, to Gothic Metal was a decent change. More suitable for their sound, and image, but after hopping right to roadrunner records the ball continues to bounce and Cradle have yet again changed sound to become more accessible. What ever happened to the passion of music you fags? It seems to be clear that with this sound change cradle of filth lost all passion for the music and continue to wallow in a world of trying to make a buck or two.

    So what is this new sound? Metalcore. Yep that’s right. Killswitch Engage, Chimaira, As I Lay Dying, etc have a new kid on the block. They keep the keyboards and Dani filth, but this has got to be the most hilarious this i had ever heard. There is no musical value to this album either. Just the same Chimaira clone bullshit metal coming out these days. This attempt is beyond poor at achieving that form of status as well. There is nothing great about this new Cradle of filth. It’s just the same average metalcore album and the physical proof of Cradle of Filth’s selling out. Get tickets now! Cradle of Filth is touring with KoRn and Slipknot! They’ll be doing a split with System of a Down soon as well!

    Nymphetagay – 35%
    Written by K_a_z_u_y_a on September 1st, 2004

    I am somewhat displeased by this album.
    I can’t truly express in words how much this album blows donkey fetus‘ ass, you’d have to hear it for yourself.

    As usual, it starts off with a standard gothic-esque Cradle Of Filth intro that seems to drag on and on and on and on relentlessly, and well, it’s downright gay.

    Following the samewhat homosexual introduction, we’re greeted with the rather aptly titled „Gilded Cunt“.
    We’re lead to believe this album is going to be good, and it’s not. It’s just got a layer of gold glitter sprinkled over the top to deceive us.
    This is song is absolute shit, no doubt about it. This isn’t Cradle Of Filth, it doesn’t sound like Cradle Of Filth, if it didn’t have Dani Filth and the keyboards, I’d think it were Chimaira with a different vocalist; yes; this song sounds rather a lot like Chimaira, it’s like they took something from Chimaira’s playbook and added it to their own.

    For a reason unbeknownst to me, most of the songs seem to sound like this; 100% mallcore. The vocals are still the same old Cradle Of Filth vocals, the leads are few and far between, and the rest of the guitar riffs sound like they’re from a Chimaira album, the drumming is rather half assed, and also, you guessed it, it sounds like Chimaira’s drumming, also!

    I knew that Cradle signing to Roadrunner would be a disaster, but I still held hope. I didn’t have any idea it’d be this awful.

    Track 3, „Nemesis“, seems to drag on forever, and is slow almost through the entire song.

    „Gabrielle“ is much of the same, slow, slow, slow, sometimes stopping for the keyboard slapped over the top of the guitars.

    Again, the following track, „Absinthe With Faust“ is slow, however; there are quite a few redeeming points in this song. Amidst the Chimaira-sounding crap they’ve decided to chuck in a few leads here and there, that actually aren’t all that bad, but it still doesn’t sound like Cradle Of Filth, and there are also nice keyboard melodies slapped over the top in certain parts of the song.

    „Nymphetamine Overdose“ is Cradle’s standard „we must have a long track filled with female vocals!“ song on the album, and in all honest, this song is actually DECENT. Easily the best song on the album, and it doesn’t completely sound like Chimaira! It has some nice female vocals throughout it, although, it doesn’t like the normal girl that sings for Cradle, it kind of sounds
    like Cristina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil, furthermore, there are some nice and interesting leads on this, also!

    „Painting Flowers White Never Suited My Palette“ …seriously, what the fuck is this? Some filler/interlude bullshit that makes no sense, and is completely out of place on the album. Pointless bullshit. Skip.

    Next up, there’s „Medusa And Hemlock“ ..okay, so this album seems to be getting better! The intro is rather good, with a nice riff, followed by some Damnation And A Day-esque guitar work, nice double kick drumming, and.. oh no, we’ve started to descent into the Chimaira bullshit again. This song seems to be going downhill… And only redeems itself for the choruses.
    However, at 3:15; there’s a nice, albeit, very out of place solo. Sounds like it could come from Kerry King’s reportoire.

    The next track, I don’t fucking know. I’m at a loss for words. It really makes my ears bleed. It’s called „Coffin Fodder“, and I’m beginning to think this CD is just that; coffin fodder.

    „English Fire“ …is that an old school Cradle intro, or do my ears deceive me? Wait, yes, it is! This song is beginning to get on my nerves, almost a minute and no tempo change whatsoever. Talk about boring; this song really drags on and on. Skip!

    And now we have „Filthy Little Secret“. What the fuck? That sounds kind of like a riff that’d come from Maiden, followed by a utterly disgusting lead. HATE. I hate this song already. Oh, what a surprise, here we have the Chimaira crap again, followed by that annoying, shitty lead. This is awful.

    „Swansong For A Raven“; what can I say? The keyboard intro is beautiful, then the guitars kick in, and the keyboard carries on! I’m really enjoying this song. This is probably the only song to come out of Cradle’s arsenal that actually sounds like Cradle! This sounds like it wouldn’t be out of place on Dusk… And Her Embrace and the like. It’s really quite good. The guitars are nice, and there are no where near as many Chimaira moments on this track than there are in the rest of the songs, the riffs are nice, there’s frequent tempo changes, and the drumming is tight. Good song!

    The follower, „Mother Of Abominations“ is another song that actually sounds like Cradle Of Filth, and not Chimaira! Again, this would fit right in right amongst Dusk… And Her Embrace. Why don’t Cradle Of Filth always sound like this? This track spans from mid speed to fast paced rather erratically, and is enough to keep the listener interested, another good song!

    „Nymphetamine Fix“.. this song, also, doesn’t sound like Chimaira. It would fit in amongst some of Cradle’s slower stuff, and really isn’t too bad, a little slow for my liking, though. There are some nice female vocals, and some interesting leads. Should be enough to keep the listener interested; but if you really don’t dig slow stuff, then stay away, this isn’t your cup of tea.

    Overall, this album seems to meander aimlessly in circles, occasionally sounding like Cradle, but for the most part seems to be focused on how much they can sound like Chimaira. Two good songs, a decent song, and a half decent song isn’t enough to make an album good. Not even average, there are 14 songs, and out of those 14 songs, only two are good. If they had’ve followed the formulas to „Swansong For A Raven“ and „Mother Of Abominations“, I don’t think there would’ve been any other option but to endlessly praise this album, but they don’t, so I’ve got nothing else to say but… …THIS ALBUM IS AWFUL.

    Don’t waste your money… …that is unless you either a) really like Chimaira or b) dig awful mallcore crap.

    Highlights:
    Swansong For A Raven

    ja klaaaaaaaar……… also 1. bilde ich mir gerne selber ne meinung über aktuelle cds. 2. wer COF seit der Anfangszeit kennt und ihre Entwicklung verfolgt hat weiß zwar dass sie schon lange nich mehr so sind wie zur Vempire oder Dusk and her embrace zeit aber nie in den metalcore hineintriften würden. 3. hat COF schon immer ihren eigenen eigenständigen musikstilgehabt der jeglicher bezeichnung widerstrebt. also ist 4. diese Kritik mehr als lachhaft 🙄

    Kannst Du auch nur eine einzige Antwort in einem moderaten Ton abgeben?Es ist jedem erlaubt sich seine eigene Meinung zu bilden, aber man kann sich ja auch mal anhören, was Andere dazu zu sagen haben, oder?Du liest doch auch wahrscheinlich Kritiken in Magazinen, ohne jedesmal einen beschwerde Leserbrief zu schreiben, was diese Kritiken sollen, wo Du Dir doch selbst eine Meinung bilden möchtest.
    Zu Deinem zweiten Kritikpunkt möchte ich nur anmerken, daß Du wahrscheinlich bei Metallica, nach der And Justice for all schon gewusst hast, daß die mal ein Album wie St. Anger rausbringen, oder?

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    Strapping_Young_Lad

    Registriert seit: 24.03.2004

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    @KingDiamond:
    Die Reviews haste von metal-archives.com, nicht?
    Bei der Seite sollte man sowieso immer ganz vorsichtig sein, ob man den Schreibern sein Vertrauen gibt – da bekommt teilweise grauenhafter Krach bessere Bewertungen als etwas anspruchsvollere Musik. Zudem sind da so’n paar total „true“ Death-/Blackmetal-Fans unterwegs, die allem, was sich etwas komerziellisiert ( was ja nicht unbedingt schlecht sein muss… ) sauschlechte Noten reindrücken. Cradle haben da nur zu Vempire und Dusk… -Zeiten gute Bewertungen erhalten – Cruelty… wurde mit ganzen 47% abgespeißt ( Meiner Meinung nach ihre beste Scheibe )

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